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(Date Posted:16/10/2007 7:48 PM)

So, Firebird82 and I were listening obsessively to Bold Sir Rylas, singing along merrily. Then I mistakenly started listening to the morality, or rather lack of it. Now, I know this is folk, but, Sir Rylas is a bit of a git isn't he?Our conversation descended into a discussion of who was more in the wrong, the old woman for attempted blackmail, or Sir Rylas for jumping on her etc etc.I haven't really decided yet, but am now convinced Sir Rylas is in fact a Monty Python knight alongside Brave Sir Robin etc. Which fits quite nicely with the Rochdale Coconut Dance too I thinkAnyone else got any ideas?
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(Date Posted:16/10/2007 8:56 PM)

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The worst bit of it was that we listened so many times that we've now invented a semi-dance akin to Shepps' Prickle-eye bush dance...



You may also need to bear in mind that this was, in fact, an 11pm conversation. 11pm being, in our house at the moment, more akin to 1am in anyone else's...
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(Date Posted:17/10/2007 12:53 AM)

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I know this is folk, but, Sir Rylas is a bit of a git isn't he?


It's certainly a bit of an extreme reaction. I mean blackmail isn't nice but cutting her head in two... it's a bit much.


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(Date Posted:17/10/2007 12:45 PM)

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... am now convinced Sir Rylas is in fact a Monty Python knight alongside Brave Sir Robin etc.





Have you heard the "missing" verses in which, of course, Bold Sir Rylas boldly runs away?



Yes, Trunkles, I'd agree, "a bit of an extreme reaction" is correct. But then again where would folk music be without extreme reactions?
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(Date Posted:17/10/2007 2:13 PM)

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Have you heard the "missing" verses in which, of course, Bold Sir Rylas boldly runs away?


Oh, now how much do I want someone to write them and J+J to play them!
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(Date Posted:17/10/2007 3:38 PM)

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Oh, now how much do I want someone to write them and J+J to play them!





I've only had time for the one paltry verse so far. I'm sure there are plenty more:



Then Bold Sir Rylas boldly away ran

All along and down a lea

And Bold Sir Rylas boldly away ran

Down by the river side

Away he ran with all his might

Desp'rate to avoid the fight

Down in the grove where the wild flowers grow

etc.
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(Date Posted:17/10/2007 5:08 PM)

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I've only had time for the one paltry verse so far. I'm sure there are plenty more:Then Bold Sir Rylas boldly away ranAll along and down a leaAnd Bold Sir Rylas boldly away ranDown by the river sideAway he ran with all his mightDesp'rate to avoid the fightDown in the grove where the wild flowers growetc.







Very good, but I'd be tempted to use either



"Bold Sir Rylas away boldly ran" OR "Bold Sir Rylas boldly away did run" to make it fit better with the music Or possibly even "Brave Sir Rylas boldy away did run", if I may dare to hack at the words even more...I trust Jon could make them sound right, he manages so well with everything else
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(Date Posted:17/10/2007 5:54 PM)

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...I trust Jon could make them sound right, he manages so well with everything else







As with almost every verse of every folk song I've ever come across, I'm sure there is plenty of room for individual interpretation.

I didn't pay all that much attention to making the thing scan because I reckoned that J&J could make the words fit expertly, as always.

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(Date Posted:17/10/2007 7:50 PM)

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Then Bold Sir Rylas boldly away ran....


But he could hardly be called Bold Sir Rylas if he keeps running away. Cowardly Sir Rylas possibly...


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